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andy

Hi,

I am starting the new 007 which has a quite nice complex structure.

14 PGCs, PGC1-12 are still image using vob IDs 1-4.

PGC 13 is Vodids 5-57, 93 cells, with multiple angle on several cells.
PGC14 is... exactly the same !

I was expecting some change between PGC13 amp; 14, like 2 different versions of the movie using seamless branching like T2 collector edition.

But, No, I can't find any difference. Same length, same vod ids, same cells, same multi-angle.

In fact only one difference, PGC13 have subs 20 to 28 and pgc14 have subs 20 to 2e.

I know how to do a 1:1, but, what is the point to have on the original DVD 2 times the same PGC described ?

If anyone can help me understand that ...

Argh . Found it 10 sec after posting...

PGC13 is angle 2 forced (with a Puop on angle selection...)
PGC14 is angle 1 forced (with a Puop on angle selection...)

This is forced by a pre-command in the PGC..

Yes, but what's really interesting is that angle 2 had other audio then angle 1

Cannot see language differences. 0x80,0x81,0x8A,0x82,0X83 on both pgc 13 amp; 14.

No, I think it's just a way to choose angle in the menu and keep pit forced all along the program.

They could have use a GPreg variable instead, with only one PGC, but prefered to put 2 PGCs, with both time information for the 2 angles.
Make no sense in fact to do that that way.

Well if you managed to do it. I would like to know precisely how.

I you demux by vobid, you'll notice that both angles have a different 0x80 audio, while this is not possible (only one audio stream for both angles is possible)

I just did the ISO rip, but will process it soon.
I will let you know what I find.

OK.
I had time to demux and you are right. Different audio for the 2 angles.
In fact if you look how it is build, it's not a standard mutli angle architecture.
Each angle refer to a different VODID.
So, a first solution with this disk, is to do the PGC 13 with VodID for angle1 only, and PGC14 for angle 2 only. It's true it will not be exactly the same structure but it will act exactly as the original (as change angle is Puop..).

Now, how to redo exactly the same structure. I tried a trick, with VobID 1 to 63 in the PGC, without any multiangle. Then compile.
Of course, if you read it that way, every multiangle scene is ducplicate ; First, angle1, then angle2 played, then back to the rest of the movie and so on.
Then I modify manually the IFO, using angle information from the original IFO : VTS_PGCTI / VTS_PGC_13
Ex Cell 5 on la passe du statut de Standard à celui de 94 ce qui donne First of angle,Angle Block seamless ...
Cell 6 en 222, etc etc , just using value fromthe original IFO
at the end, we get the same structure.
i did not have enough time to fully test that, but it should work.

I am stuck to another trouble as I cannot rip subs by VobID with DIF4U 1.1.5.0, but will post about that in the correct forum.
(And I am lazy to use the old method; DVDdecrypter rip by vodid, then subrip.)

This sounds interesting. But how many cells will you have to edit manually then?

Well, Vob Id conecerned by Multi angles : So :

6-7;10-11;12-13;15-16;18-19;21-22;24-25;27-28;31-32;34-35;37-38;40-41;43-44;46-47;49-50;52-53;56-57;58-59;61-62

But, you only have to change 1 value, so it's a 10 min job.

I need to test it this WE to see if it really works or if I forget something.

@ influenza amp; klona

To get back on that quot;different audio for multi-angle is impossiblequot;...

Ever thought about the difference between  a seamless and a non-seamless multi-angle track?
Seamless has same audio/different video, non-seamless different audio/video. Just to have it mentioned.

Ok . I did not know about that.
But still, how to re-do that into Scenarist ?

Originally posted by klona
Ok . I did not know about that.
But still, how to re-do that into Scenarist ?

At the moment I haven't a clue, but I didn't take a closer look at the authoring of the bond disc too...
If I come to a solution I'll post it here, but it's not very likely 'cause I've got too much work the next 2 weeks...