quot;Data will arrive too late errorquot; message message, question, average, forums

andy

I have searched the forums but have yet to gain any understanding of what this error really means.  First question is what is the SCR Number refer to?

I have re-encoded LOTR disk 1 with TMPGEnc (2-pass vbr, with the average and max bit rates calculated as per the ReMPG2 guide on this site) and authored it with IfoEdit 0.95 and I get about 6 of these messages about 10% into the authoring, referencing the video stream 0xE0 first and the DTS stream at the end of the message.

I have tried to reduce the max bitrate, as recommended in another post, but still get these errors.  I can't detect any playback problem on my Panasonic RP82 player, but I have yet to try any other players.

Any other suggestions as to how to eliminate this error from occuring?

Thanks,
Kevin

I've also seen this annoying message several times and I think I've found what's going on, although I am not aware of the meaning of SCR number etc.

I will take a guess and say that if you extract the subtitles, you do it with VOBEdit. I was also doing it that way and I had the error, which resulted to a final movie where the subs were disappearing before the end! I was lucky enough to find a post here where the author sugggested to extract subs with two programs: VobSub Configuration and Sub2Sup. You install VobSub and from the applications that it has you run VobSub Configuration (or something very similar). Select quot;Openquot; and in file types select quot;Ifo...quot; and open the respective IFO file. Select the PGC and subs you want from this and hit OK. After a couple of minutes you get two files (sub and idx). Then run Sub2Sup and open the idx you got before and within 2 or 3 secs you have a sup file suitable for IFOEdit.

By doing the above I had no more quot;Data will arrive too late errorquot; messages and the movies are OK.

BUT, if you do not keep any subs at all, there is a possibility that something is wrong with either ReMPEG or TMPGEnc. I use CCE 2.50 SP and I do my job faster and better than ReMPEG.

Summary: If you keep subtitles, try my suggestion. Otherwise, try CCE and see what do you get. In any case good luck!

regards,

I use VobSub Configure and Sub2Sup exactly as you have described, and my subtitles are all there and in perfect synchronization.  It may be the case that I need to subtract even more off of the max bit rate.  In fact, I did make the following assumption:  Since I had kept two audio tracks DD-AC3 and DTS, I assumed that I need only account for the larger of the two audio streams (the DTS stream) when calculating the Max video bit rate...  The reasoning being that only one audio stream is played at any time.  Is this a valid assumption?

Kevin

Sorry, it's not.

You need to substract the bitrate of ALL other streams present, including ALL audio streams and ALL subtitle streams.

Thanks for the info...  I'll subtract all streams and see if that makes a difference.

If you have the R2 DVD, it should work. (Since the subtitles don't cause problems with that disc.)

If you don't and it doesn't work, leave out the subtitles.

If it still doesn't work, buy faster hardware  (Or you simply miscalculated...)

Good luck!

I am trying to create a DVD for a movie that is almost 2 hours long.
Since I am eventually going to use a DL disk, I was not too concerned about reducing the bit rate. I select 9Mb/sec for video and 384kbit/sec for audio.

I have now gotten the dreaded message quot;Stream E0 data will arrive too laterquot; several times while encoding the DVD. I don't think the data rates should be a problem. I have already encoded one other movie that was 98 minutes using these values. Am I making a bad assumption about this?

I switched from IFOEdit to Rejig and the problem seems to have disappeared.