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I was wondering which 5.1 sound compression you would consider ideal to create a movie soundtrack for 1 cd rips (800Mb XCD) ?
Thanks...
I think OGG atm.
I was just wondering about something like this, so I just come and join this thread. But first an answer.
The problem with 5.1 ogg atm is that it ecodes 6 discrete channels and thus uses 3xstereo bandwith. It could be a lot more efficient by using channel coupling (I don't know if it's actually called like that, i'm talking about using the similarities between the channels to save bandwith). I made a couple of those rips but it doesn't save a lot of space when you're going for good quality. And you can't use it together with 2-channel ogg-streams.
I found best 5.1 quality at low bandwith with WMA 5.1 at 192kbs, but you can't put that into avi/ogg/mkv, and wma/asf won't work with XCD (I think...) and won't support divx/xvid, that's why I don't use it.
For that reason I tend go go for AC3 and take the track that comes with the DVD. You could reencode it with AC3machine to get a lower bitrate and still get good 5.1 sound.
But now comes the question part...
Since there's a nice new little multichannel AAC-decoder that can be used with AAC-tracks in matroska-files, I was wondering wether AAC could be used for that. But when I tried to transcode a track with AACmachine it estimated very high bitrates for the 5.1-file at good quality (higher than the AC3 that is), and aacmachine crashed when i started transcoding, I wanted to know wether someone could enlighten me about the 5.1-capabilities of AAC in comparison to AC3, and only if it's better i'll investigate that crash of aacmachine further. What i'd like to know is
1. Does AAC achieve quality similar or better to AC3 at the same bitrate?
2. Can I get a 5.1 AAC-file at a bitrate lt; 200kbit/s that still sounds good?
3. And if it's quot;yesquot; and quot;yesquot;, can I do it with AACmachine or another free tool?
Originally posted by CaptainCarrot
Since there's a nice new little multichannel AAC-decoder that can be used with AAC-tracks in matroska-files, I was wondering wether AAC could be used for that.
I summarized the multichannel capabilities of AAC/MP4 in a sticky thread in the quot;New A/V formatsquot; forum recently:
showthread.php?s=amp;postid=312161
I can add to this that the brand new Nero Burning ROM 5.5.10.35 has a fixed AAC codec now that no longer maps the channels in a wrong way (like PsyTEL or the older Nero plugins did). But it is not capable of AAC+ encoding yet, this will probably be a part of the next official release which everyone is waiting for. And considering some flaws within the Nero distribution handling it's possible that they did not add the fixed WAV input plugin with the new version, so you should better check that first if you want to test multichannel AAC/MP4 encodings with Nero now. A separate bugfixed input plugin for Nero is available at RareWares since some days already, so that wouldn't be a big problem.
And you can also download a working AAC input plugin for Osmo4 at RareWares based on FAAD2 now, so this new player should also have no difficulties with correct multichannel MP4 files.
But when I tried to transcode a track with AACmachine it estimated very high bitrates for the 5.1-file at good quality (higher than the AC3 that is), and aacmachine crashed when i started transcoding, I wanted to know wether someone could enlighten me about the 5.1-capabilities of AAC in comparison to AC3, and only if it's better i'll investigate that crash of aacmachine further.
I don't know exactly what AACmachine does or why it crashes, but at least you can still use it for AC-3 decoding to WAV, as far as I know. But the encoding should not be done with PsyTEL AACEnc, because this codec has the same confirmed multichannel bug that older Nero codecs had, and it will not get fixed of course.
So the only free alternative is FAAC that works fine with multichannel input files, as far as I know. The problem is that it doesn't have any joint stereo/channel coupling tools at the moment, so the bitrate is higher than it would be with those tools. If you want to try out FAAC, you should start with the default setting (except for the MPEG version flag that should be set to quot;4quot;) which gives you ~64 kbps VBR for one channel, then check if you like the sound and test again with a lower quality setting, e.g. -q 90 or -q 80.
What i'd like to know is
1. Does AAC achieve quality similar or better to AC3 at the same bitrate?
It's better (assuming that you only want to compare transcodings here), because it uses more new and advanced coding methods than AC-3.
2. Can I get a 5.1 AAC-file at a bitrate lt; 200kbit/s that still sounds good?
With the new Nero Burning ROM plugin yes (because it always used joint stereo), and with the new Nero Digital app with AAC+ (available in July) for sure, because then you would only need ~32 kbps or less for one channel with a very good sound.
3. And if it's quot;yesquot; and quot;yesquot;, can I do it with AACmachine or another free tool?
See above, you must decode AC-3 somehow (e.g. with AACmachine) and then either use the new Nero Burning ROM or FAAC for encoding. FAAC is available in a command line version or with an own GUI or as a Nero output plugin from Mausau, so you can also use it instead of the official Nero AAC codec.
Originally posted by hans-jürgen
And considering some flaws within the Nero distribution handling it's possible that they did not add the fixed WAV input plugin with the new version, so you should better check that first if you want to test multichannel AAC/MP4 encodings with Nero now. A separate bugfixed input plugin for Nero is available at RareWares since some days already, so that wouldn't be a big problem.
The wav.dll version at rarewares is 2.0.0.0. The one which comes with the Nero 5.5.10.35 is version 2.0.0.5. So it should be working (though I don't remember if I tested the 2.0.0.5 already )
Another thing about the current Nero AAC codec: bit reservour control for multichannel is not implemented, so it's better to use vbr settings for multichannel encodings.
The 2.0.0.5 wav.dll can't read multichannel-wav-files, the one from rarewarez is still needed.
EDIT: with the rarewarez-dll i can open the wav-file, but i can't encode to aac, the encoding-window just pops up really short and closes again without any error message.
I laready tried aiff 5.1, and that works, but there is a regular cracking in the aac-file. Is the Nero-aac-plugin incapable of 48000kHz or something?
I also downsampled the original ac3-track to 44.1khz when converting to aiff, but then i get downmix overflows and the file won't work .
If anyone managed to convert an ac3-5.1-file to aac-5.1 with the recent 5.5.10.35 Nero and could post a short step-list I'd be thankful.
Yeah, I downsampled to 44.1 kHz in BeSweet, updated my WAV DLL and Nero crashes when I try to encode to AAC. Nero cannot play the file; it can just open it. If anyone has been sucessful in doing this, please let us know.
I am getting the same crash as well. I did the same as everyone else, I replaced the wav.dll with the one on rarewares b/c 5.1 wavs still don't work but it encodes just a couple minutes and crashes same with aiff, btw I downsampled too with ssrc to 44.1khz.
EDIT: I replaced the wav.dll with the old one and tried to encode the aiff again but it still crashes so this isn't the problem.
, because I don't know if Ivan or Menno read this forum or even have a user account here.
Well, I didn't get any cracking (though I haven't watched the whole movie I encoded again, but with quick listening didn't hear any cracks).
I have the Ahead audio RAW converter quality set to sinc 100 for both playback and other purposes. Not sure if this has anything to do with it.
Then I have 48khz ac3 demuxed with DVD2AVI from vobs. These are feeded into besweet.
With Besweet Gui I have AC3 decoder and dynamic compression chosen, the delay set if needed, and output to 5.1 aiff (48khz).
Then I encode with Nero vbr streaming profile (I'm not sure if the latest release version GUI includes the profiles, I have newer development version).
Originally posted by JohnV
Well, I didn't get any cracking (though I haven't watched the whole movie I encoded again, but with quick listening didn't hear any cracks).
If you had the cracking it would be obvious, it's louder than the rest of the audio and about 1/s. I have the Ahead audio RAW converter quality set to sinc 100 for both playback and other purposes. Not sure if this has anything to do with it.
I'll try thatThen I have 48khz ac3 demuxed with DVD2AVI from vobs. These are feeded into besweet.
With Besweet Gui I have AC3 decoder and dynamic compression chosen, the delay set if needed, and output to 5.1 aiff (48khz).
Then I encode with Nero vbr streaming profile (I'm not sure if the latest release version GUI includes the profiles, I have newer development version).
That's what I did, though I tried all combinations of dowmsampling 48-gt;44,1 on/off and dynamic compression on/off, didn't make a difference for the outcome with long audio files (2,7GB aiff in this case): Nero crashed every time during conversion, the farest i've ever come was about 50%.
Btw. does Nero downsample your 48khz to 44.1? Cause my (cracking) 2min clip created from a 48khz aiff was 44.1khz aac.
And does Nero show any fileinformation for your aiff-file? with my version that info-window is just empty.
EDIT: There's one thing that really bugs me about this NERO-version: We are allowed to do 50 test encodes so we get an impression of the quality, but it looks like i'm gonna spend them all for beta (alpha?) testing their plugin, so when i finally get it working, it's not working anymore, and i can't test further. Do they expect me to spent 15$ to be able to give them feedback ?
Someone asked for a guide how to successfully transcode to multichannel AAC in NERO (just to add that, I use the full version of the plugin, so I can't say anything for the trial plugin):
1. Update NERO to the latest release (obvious) and exchange the wav.dll with the one from rarewares.
2. Decode the soundtrack of your movie to 6 channel WAV with BeSweet like:
besweet -core( -input in.ac3 -output out.wav -6chwav ) -azid( -c normal ) -ota( -g max )
If you like to resample, then add '-shibatch( --rate 44100 )'.
3. Here lies also the first problem: for a full 2h movie your resulting WAV maybe larger than 2 GB. NERO crashes on any WAV larger 2 GB, that means you have to split it somehow, e.g.:
besplit -core( -input in.ac3 -prefix out -type ac3 -ending) -split( 0 3600 7200 )
This will split your movie after the first and after the second hour.
4. If you splitted above, then you need to decode all of your .ac3 files, BUT you should already know what the max gain for your whole movie is and add '-ota( -g 10.1 db)' or so. Decoding with -g max would give you different gain levels for the two or three parts -gt; not nice!
5. Open your WAV files in NERO. Choose VBR preset 'normal' or 'streaming'. For streaming profile you should resample to 44,1 kHz before to prevent NERO from doing so (if it works for you, O.K.). Also tick 'export AAC file'.
6. Put all your produced AAC files to a .lst-file that looks like this for example:
C:\part1.aac
C:\part2.aac
C:\part3.aac
7. Join your aac files (besplit can't join MP4) with a command like this:
besplit -core( -input join.lst -output out.aac -type aac -join ).
8. Have fun!
Please send feedback, but that way should work.
Regards,
tiki4
Btw, choosing 'normal preset' you end up with quite good quality and a bitrate around 300 kBit/s, but I just tested for music DVD.
Originally posted by tiki4
2. Decode the soundtrack of your movie to 6 channel WAV with BeSweet like:
besweet -core( -input in.ac3 -output out.wav -6chwav ) -azid( -c normal ) -ota( -g max )
If you like to resample, then add '-shibatch( --rate 44100 )'.
3. Here lies also the first problem: for a full 2h movie your resulting WAV maybe larger than 2 GB. NERO crashes on any WAV larger 2 GB, that means you have to split it somehow, e.g.:
You could use aiff, it wont crash and I've encoded over 4GB multichannel aiff with Nero. That way you don't have to split any files. You can also output directly to .mp4 and mux .avi mpeg4 video and .mp4 audio with mp4ui.
5. Open your WAV files in NERO. Choose VBR preset 'normal' or 'streaming'. For streaming profile you should resample to 44,1 kHz before to prevent NERO from doing so (if it works for you, O.K.).
Weird, I get 48khz output from streaming profile. Nero is not resampling anything for me.
I'm using the trial version, and WaveEdit crashes when I try to encode to AAC. These are 1.7 GB 6 ch WAVs and WaveEdit crashes when I try to do anything with them. I get the following errors:
1) WavEdit MFC DLL has encountered a problem and needs to close...
Error signature:
AppName: waveedit.exe AppVer 1.0.5.0 ModName: waveedit.dll
ModVer: 1.0.5.0 Offset: 000112caCode:
Crash Data
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2) Visual C++ Runtime Library
Runtime error!
Program: C:\...\WaveEdit.exe
The application requested the runtime to terminate in an unsual way...
3) out01.wav - Nero Wave Editor: WaveEdit.exe - Application Error
The instruction at quot;0x77f5b2abquot; referenced memory at quot;0x00000028quot;. The memory could not be quot;readquot;.
Click OK to terminate the program.
Ok, Nero just encoded my 2,7GB aiff file twice (1xstreaming, 1xinternet) without crashing.
What did I change? I upgraded from 256MB RAM to 512MB RAM, and now it works.
The final bitrates were 266 for streaming and 246 for internet, so i can't really reproduce the quot;sounds like ac3 at gt;240kbitquot; marketing, but maybe with gt;240 they meant 300 (it's at least not wrong).
I'll try the other (lower bitrate) encoding schemes as well and check the actual quality as soon as i find the time.
EDIT: I just tried the radio-preset and the final bitrate was 83kbit! Those presets definitely need some finetuning, the qualitygaps between them are a little bit strange. Atm there seems to be no way to get a vbr-aac with Nero at bitrates ~200kbit, and pretending that their codec performs quite good at 160kbit is quite funny if you can go for either 245 or 83 only .
Anybody here who managed to get a vbr-aac with bitrates in the 160-240 range?
Originally posted by CaptainCarrot
Ok, Nero just encoded my 2,7GB aiff file twice (1xstreaming, 1xinternet) without crashing.
What did I change? I upgraded from 256MB RAM to 512MB RAM, and now it works.
The final bitrates were 266 for streaming and 246 for internet, so i can't really reproduce the quot;sounds like ac3 at gt;240kbitquot; marketing, but maybe with gt;240 they meant 300 (it's at least not wrong).
I'll try the other (lower bitrate) encoding schemes as well and check the actual quality as soon as i find the time.
EDIT: I just tried the radio-preset and the final bitrate was 83kbit! Those presets definitely need some finetuning, the qualitygaps between them are a little bit strange. Atm there seems to be no way to get a vbr-aac with Nero at bitrates ~200kbit, and pretending that their codec performs quite good at 160kbit is quite funny if you can go for either 245 or 83 only .
Anybody here who managed to get a vbr-aac with bitrates in the 160-240 range?
Were you using the demo AAC plugin?
Originally posted by Animaniac
Were you using the demo AAC plugin?
Yes, if that's the one that comes with NERO. It didn't pay anything extra. But if I understood it correctly the only difference is the limitation to 50 encodings. |
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