Hey Everyone...
Dvd.box.sk is making a series of tests/reviews to find the best tool for backing-up DVD9's. So far they reached the best results with Intervideo DVDCopy v1.2. They managed to make a copy of Matrix (PAL) with almost no loss in quility, quite impressive I havent tried this tool yet, but im going to give it a try. What do you guys think about this tool?? someone tried the 1.2 version??
Read the Intervideo DVDCopy 1.2 Quality Test
//Badash
there is no way!
the comparison is 100% identical... yet it fits on DVDR? i'm in shock and would like to try this program for myself. for most movies, DVDShrink has been great and i rarely notice compression. i swore by Instant Copy but since switched to DVDShrink for its faster transcoding speed and custom in/out points.
I just tried this program myself (Intervideo DVD Copy - trial version), but for some reason, it deletes all of the files it creates after it finishes transcoding - not a good start! By the looks of it, it only accepts a DVD burner as the quot;Targetquot;, that's probably why it deleted the files immediately after transcoding (I originally set the quot;Targetquot; to a folder on the HDD). Also, it doesn't look like the program is able to keep more than one subtitle or audio channel.
Update: Apparently many others have had this occur to them (files instantly being deleted off the hard drive after the process is complete - both the trial version and the full version), even when the quot;Targetquot; is set to a DVD burner.
It looks like the original and dvdcopy image are the exact same.
Using this copy tool for al long time now and its great i think even better than Instant copy, when you want to save the transcoded files on HD make them read only....
After transcoding your dvd to HD intervideo dvd copy is going to parse the files (takes about 4 minutes)in those 4 minutes you select all files and make them read only. when dvdcopy is done the files are not gone
Originally posted by t1955feb
After transcoding your dvd to HD intervideo dvd copy is going to parse the files (takes about 4 minutes)in those 4 minutes you select all files and make them read only. when dvdcopy is done the files are not gone
Ahh, hehe, thanks alot for the tip Works like a charm now Thanks again.
I tried the program with AC/DC STIFF UPPER LIP and the result wasn't bad but you can see pixels so IC8 for me again.
Hello
There are some strange things in the test.
dvdr/ing/art6/
When you compare for example sklad_dvdc.jpg and sklad_orig.jpg(Intervideo DVD COPY v1.2 test), files are exact same.
I don't think difference in view, but in binary compare.
Result=====gt;orginal and transcoded file are only renamed to another name.
In all tests(directory art1-art6) sizes of original and final files are different in kb(kilobytes), except sizes of Intervideo DVDCopy. There is only a small difference in bytes or exact same file(difference in head of file=different time...)!!!???!!!
It's suspicious. Maybe fake test!!!!
Originally posted by ExSport
Hello
There are some strange things in the test.
dvdr/ing/art6/
When you compare for example sklad_dvdc.jpg and sklad_orig.jpg(Intervideo DVD COPY v1.2 test), files are exact same.
I don't think difference in view, but in binary compare.
Result=====gt;orginal and transcoded file are only renamed to another name.
In all tests(directory art1-art6) sizes of original and final files are different in kb(kilobytes), except sizes of Intervideo DVDCopy. There is only a small difference in bytes or exact same file(difference in head of file=different time...)!!!???!!!
It's suspicious. Maybe fake test!!!!
You're very right, I've got the exact same DVD as they used for the test, and I certainly did not get that (perfect) result when I tried it.
Tried it on Dreamcatcher R2, result was worse than dvdshrink with deep analysis.
What's the use of a fake test, hours of work to make a test for fake???????
I've done a few more tests, and the results are surprising to say the least. The programs I put it up against were Elby CloneDVD 1.3.11.2, DVD2One 1.4.1, DVDShrink 3.1, and InstantCopy 8.05 (unfortunately I couldn't test it with Recode 2 - haven't purchased it yet). I used my copy of The Matrix (PAL), removed all extras, yet kept all of the audio channels, subtitles, and menus (and of course the main movie). Note: With DVD2One I only did main-movie mode, which unfortunately didn't include a menu.
- That aside, InterVideo DVD Copy kept the most detail, and had no pixelation whatsoever (even at 400% zoom) in high action/motion scenes. It would be difficult to tell which one is the original DVD if it were put to the test.
- InstantCopy (high quality mode) came in a close second, with slight blurring, causing loss of detail; but again, no pixelation was found in 'intensive' scenes.
- DVDShrink (with Deep Analysis) seemed to have caused even more blurring, which again caused loss of some detail. In high motion scenes, pixelation was noticeable when zooming - I doubt it would be noticeable on standard televisions.
- CloneDVD and DVD2One (variable) both surprised me, they pretty much kept up with DVDShrink in all high motion scenes. However, pixelation was more noticeable than DVDShrink's output (but not by much). DVD2One did however, cause more pixelation than the rest of the transcoders.
Conclusion? I found InterVideo DVD Copy (my opinion) the 'best' at handling movie-only (with menu) DVD9 - DVD5 conversions. Try it yourself and see what you think
With that said, I decided to backup my Back to the Future (part 1 - 7.52gb) with everything included - menus, audio channels (minus the DTS sound), subtitles, extras, etc. I used the same programs once again, but this time, found InstantCopy was the clear winner, with surprisingly little (or even no) pixelation in high motion scenes. Yet, there was some detail lost due to blurring. All of the other programs gave out 'unwatchable' copies But, I must say, DVDShrink's output was quite good, considering the amount of compression required to fit it all on to one DVD (possibly because with the other programs, you can't manually set the compression figures for certain titles).
In conclusion (again), I have found that InterVideo DVD Copy is the most efficient (my opinion ) with movie-only back-ups. And, InstantCopy is the one to go with for complete back-ups.
Well, that's my two cents
Why don't you try other movies ??? This reminds me somehow the 'infamous' drivers that nvidia claimed to increase performance.
Not sure the relevance of these tests....were they all done at 400x to see the pixelation? If so...then who cares (pardon my bluntness). I do not watch TV at 400x magnification. To be honest, my test is my neighbours 42 inch Pioneer plasma (or is it 46??? I forgoet). I did my own tests with LOTR and Matrix with DVD2One, DVDShrink, and Recode.....at 1x magnification I see no difference. At around 5x I see issues with DVD2One and of course Recode and DVDShirnk are neck and neck.
Hey Im back...
Got back from work and tried just a quick test.. I have 25th Hour (PAL) and did make a complete backup of that, nothing removed.
From Intervideos Homepage:
Dual Layer DVDs to Single DVD -- Compress a 9.4 GB dual layer DVD to 4.7GB with no loss of content or quality.
Well that was what I tried and the conclusion is very easy, keep on dreaming !!! Anyway the result was very good compared to 25th Hour is more than 2 hours, the DVD have 3 DD5.1 amp; 2 Commentary audio-tracks and also allot of extras included on the disc, which I didnt remove. I can see pixelation on the main movie and extra material. But im conviced, if I strip unwanted material and sound without removing the menu, then DVDCopy can make a pretty impressive result and even pretty fast. I will have to test that these next days....
//Badash
Maybe so....just too many steps. I just checked this program out. It looks cool on the web page...but it only copies full disks, which is a bit silly; can't just do a movie only with 1 audio track. You would need to strip via dvdshrink or other prg. the stuff you do not want...just an extra step or two but just wastes time I think. I find the bonus stuff and menus a bit silly at times and a waste of space (although some are cool). So I really only care abut movie only. I think Deep/Advanced Analysis with the famous shrink programs are more than good enough.
Originally posted by ron spencer
Not sure the relevance of these tests....were they all done at 400x to see the pixelation? If so...then who cares (pardon my bluntness). I do not watch TV at 400x magnification. To be honest, my test is my neighbours 42 inch Pioneer plasma (or is it 46??? I forgoet). I did my own tests with LOTR and Matrix with DVD2One, DVDShrink, and Recode.....at 1x magnification I see no difference. At around 5x I see issues with DVD2One and of course Recode and DVDShirnk are neck and neck.
They were not all done at 400x magnification (I only used 400x magnification to test out how close InterVideo DVD Copy's output was to the original - detail wise), I wouldn't have bothered typing out my 'results' if they were You could definitely see signs of pixelation when DVDShrink, CloneDVD and DVD2One were used (not bagging these programs or anything - I still prefer DVDShrink when using a standard television - but the pixelation it creates is very noticeable on a HDTV). The pixelation was noticeable especially in some parts of the infamous 'lobby' scene (Matrix), even at normal resolution with no magnification whatsoever.
My Back to the Future tests (complete backup) proved to be the same (for me anyway), but this time, InstantCopy was the more effective, with its only real contender being DVDShrink (because with both, you can allocate more compression to extras compared to the main movie). After they (DVDShrink / InstantCopy) were finished transcoding, I loaded the .vobs, and bitrates for the main movie were very similar (~3284). However, even so, InstantCopy proved to be the clear winner (very little pixelation, and a little detail loss) when simply scrolling through the movie at normal resolution - the other programs were probably on par with standard SVCD quality, but with alot more blocks.
But hey, my results only reflect the way I do my DVD backups (I tend to want to backup everything - every audio channel, subtitle, menu, extra - so it works just like the original DVD), so obviously it's going to be different for many others on this board who usually care for the main movie and audio/subtitle languages they understand only
It would be good if we make some tests about some DVD backup programs. We can each time take a big dual DVD movie and test it with all the programs : Intervideo, Pinacle IC, DVDShrink and to not forget ReJig (movie only). Personally, backing up quot;Hurricanquot; with DVDShrink and ReJig, all the two in movie only, I found ReJig much much better.
Originally posted by ExSport
Hello
There are some strange things in the test.
dvdr/ing/art6/
When you compare for example sklad_dvdc.jpg and sklad_orig.jpg(Intervideo DVD COPY v1.2 test), files are exact same.
I don't think difference in view, but in binary compare.
Result=====gt;orginal and transcoded file are only renamed to another name.
In all tests(directory art1-art6) sizes of original and final files are different in kb(kilobytes), except sizes of Intervideo DVDCopy. There is only a small difference in bytes or exact same file(difference in head of file=different time...)!!!???!!!
It's suspicious. Maybe fake test!!!!
Hi,
I compared myself 3 sets of files :
hala_orig.jpg and hala_dvdc.jpg are completely differents.
sklad_orig.jpg and sklad_dvdc.jpg are the same (no difference).
telefon_orig.jpg and telefon_dvdc.jpg are completely differents.
So I think it's not fake and for the one that has no difference, it means maybe DVDCopy had not to reencode it. |
Post at 2011-4-15 16:37
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