I’ve have been doing some reading on the research and development of dual layered burners that are due to hit shelves soon. This looks like it could be a really great advancement. Although I know there will be special dual layered disc that will be required, I was wondering if anyone knows how this will effect DVD shrink. Will it be worth buying a highly priced dual burner and disc, or will there be a shrink version that will be modified to be compliant with this new technology.
The whole excitement about dual layer discs is that you won't HAVE to shrink stuff.
Of course, there are some who will want to put 2 on 1, etc., so there will still be SOME market, but it will be much smaller.
i think it will still be a while before these gain widespread use, i bet they will be far more expensive then the current burners and disks. me personally i would rather pay 1/2 the price or more (not sure about prices on new disks and drives) and have to shrink the material then have to pay high prices to keep my movies uncompressed
~Fizz
What happens with the layer break though? Might it not need moving? If so then you would still need to process the files through something before burning?
I think there will still be a layer break since you are using a quot;dual layerquot; burner.
Originally posted by daddy_fizz
me personally i would rather pay 1/2 the price or more (not sure about prices on new disks and drives) and have to shrink the material then have to pay high prices to keep my movies uncompressed
~Fizz
I prefer the opposite and not lose time with trasncoding and encoding stuff. Because, finally, it's really annoying. If you see what I mean...
I guess that's why dvdshrink is(was?) retiring.
IMHO the hot DVD software in the days to come, is going top be tools like DVDStripper which allow you to remove unwanted stuff.
Dual-Layer drives will of course be pricey in the beginning, but who cares about that? That's a one-time expense. The problem will more likely be that the dual-layer media is going to cost a minor fortune.
This will probably mean that normal 4.37gb DVDR media will get cheaper though.
Eventually, the media will fall in price, and that will probably be about the same time as a new and bigger/better media is introduced ;-)
Either way, we will have the layerbreak, since that's not really removeable on a dual layer, and to be honest, I still think there will be a market for normal DVDR for a while. I mean, picture this:
You buy an original DVD. There is 7gb data on it. You examine the contents closer, and find that there are about 500mb of foreign soundtracks you don't need, and 1gb of crappy trailers and extras you don't need either. That makes it 5.5GB. Now, would you rather transcode it a little, and use the cheap 4.37GB media, or pay through nose to keep the stuff you never really use, by using the (most likely) much more expensive DVDR-DL?
I'm not saying this WILL happen, but I think you get the idea.
-tf
I said move not remove.
Why do you think you'll need to move the layer break?
I'm not trying to be snide - I really want to know why you think that. I myself can't think of a reason that the layer break would need to be moved. Something like DVDDecrypter should keep all the sectors parceled to their respective layer so that when you burn it back it is sector-for-sector identical (minus CSS of course).
to me it is all about price, if the new drives/disks are cheap enough i would switch over in a heartbeat, if they are expensive it doesn't make sense to me to pay near as much as buying another copy of my dvds i own, then to back them up
~Fizz
Originally posted by daddy_fizz
to me it is all about price, if the new drives/disks are cheap enough i would switch over in a heartbeat, if they are expensive it doesn't make sense to me to pay near as much as buying another copy of my dvds i own, then to back them up
~Fizz
I agree - we are, after all, making a BACKUP of dvd's we already have, if I want to see a perfect picture, commentaries, trailers, and FBI warnings, etc I'll watch my original
Hi all.
Apparently some present day drives will be upgradable to quot;dual-layer burningquot; via firmware.
The Pioneer A06 has been mentionned, but nothing has been confirmed.
Actually Pioneer did confirm that the A06/106 will not be made dual layer in the future. The demo machine not only had a modified firmware some of the hardware was also moddified.
Reason why I ask is because at least with the -R dual layer burning both layers must have the exact same data. So if you burn 200MB's that means 100MB's on each layer even though it could easily fit on only one layer.
DVD Shrink will require some modification to support encoding two movies to a dual-layer disc. A layer break would have to be inserted which would require at least some level of communication between DVD Shrink and the burning software: DVD Shrink would have to modify the IFO files and the DVD structure somewhat, and indicate to the burning software at exactly which point to switch from one layer to the next. Currently the Nero burning engine in DVD Shrink does not support this functionality.
hi,
I think we will see new versions of dvdburning apps when those dual-layer burners become available.
regards,
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Post at 2011-4-15 16:34
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