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Anyone tried this one with InstantCopy ?

I cannot seem to get anywhere NEAR 4.37GB.

I use DVDToolbox to remove everything except for the main movie.  This gives me 5.31GB.

Even setting IC to 99.5% for the main movie the best (highest) I have been able to get is 3.73GB.

But if I set it to 100% it gives me 5.31GB  (I just realised how stupid that sounds...).

Can't seem to find a happy medium between 99 and 100%.

Any ideas ?

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answer

Grover,
If you have DVD2one then fixing an oversize by IC7 is as easy as pie.  Its more for beginners like me:
1. Take whatever vobs you wish to reduce and separate them into a new folder (call it input) DONT MOVE THE VTS_0x_0 vob! Also create another folder called quot;outputquot;.
2. Rename them to VTS_01_1 through VTS_01_x so dvd2one can process it.
(example the main movie vob may be VTS_02_1 through VTS_02_6 so rename all the _02's to _01's)
3. Open IFOedit and create IFO's for the VTS_01_1 vob.
3. Run DVD2one and point to input and output folders and select main movie only and select what streams you want. Put output to 4472 MB or whatever you NEED.
4. Take resulting output and put it in original movie folder (rename it if you need to back to original numbers (example             VTS_02_1 --gt;VTS_02_6)
5. Run IFOUpdate and Update IFO's for the original IFO and new authored IFO. Get VTS sectors and then BURN BABY BURN.  

@TeFLoN

it's the stupid black bars that's plaguing Grover

hopefully it's gonna be fixed soon
It's better just to use DVD2One/DVD95Copy/DVDShrink on these movies anyway cos they enjoy the black bars and it actually affects the actual movie quality very littlep.s. @Grover, if you use the arrows on the keyboard after highlighting the slider bar you can adjust in by 0.10% steps

Originally posted by MisterX
@TeFLoN

p.s. @Grover, if you use the arrows on the keyboard after highlighting the slider bar you can adjust in by 0.10% steps

Great tip MisterX.Thanks to everrone for thier input.   

Curse those black bars  

Will give it a whirl thru DVD Shrink and compare output (quality and size) to my IC7 file.

Cheers......

If you can get it anywhere near 4.37Gb then you will be impressed

Alas,  DVD Shrink could only get me to 3.92GB.  

I burnt both to DVD-RW's and compared in my PC and on my Pioneer stand alone.   I much prefer the output from IC7 (though smaller in size).   I am by no stretch of the imagination any kind of expert in what constitues a quot;goodquot; copy but it's a bit like tasting wines - I know which one tastes best to me and that's the one I buy.

I don't know if this is any accurate kind of comparison test, but when I quot;show informationquot; in PowerDVD and on my standalone and compare each of the discs on a scene for scene basis, the video bit rate for the IC7 reports consistantly higher.   

Your thoughts...?

I like the fact that DVD Shrink is quick and easy, but I rate quality above time always (I usually set to quot;encodequot; and then go to bed, or go to work etc.. so I don't care how long it takes.)  OT:  woudl be great if IC7 has an option at least for multiple pass encoding for those of us for whom time is not the key factor.

Side note, I could _SWEAR_ Insurection NTSC Region 1 was a DVD5, IE it doesn't need to be resized.

Is this not a NTSC Region 1 release you are using?

As I am in Australia this is a Region 4 DVD and it's definately dual-layer.  (although you have prompted me to dig out the original and check in DVDDecrypter.   

---------------------------------
Device Information:
Current Profile: DVD-ROM

Disc Information:
Status: Complete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Sectors: 3,475,480
Size: 7,117,783,040 bytes
Time: 772:21:55 (MM:SS:FF)

Physical Format Information:
Book Type: DVD-ROM
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: 10.08Mbps
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
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I use DVDToolbox to remove everything except for the main movie. This gives me 5.31GB.     Then IC7 brought this down to the 3.73GB described below (above). whatever....

I'm happy enough with the result I have so far.   I can always drag out the original if I really need the extra quality for any reason.

Cheers.......

Originally posted by The-PJ
Side note, I could _SWEAR_ Insurection NTSC Region 1 was a DVD5, IE it doesn't need to be resized.

Is this not a NTSC Region 1 release you are using?

yep, take it from a trekkie:  ST - insurrection (region 1) IS a single layer dvd (dvd5)!  it was no big deal to make a 1:1 copy (with a few mods  )

DA

quot;Side note, I could _SWEAR_ Insurection NTSC Region 1 was a DVD5, IE it doesn't need to be resized.

Is this not a NTSC Region 1 release you are using?quot;I just burned this movie last week and it was only 3.something Gigs.

ShadowRed,

refer to my post above about the disc I was originaly talking about which is Region 4 release and also note the readings from DVDDecrypter

Size: 7,117,783,040 bytes
Number of Layers: 2

I'm sure the R1 release is a DVD-5, but down here the R4 release gives me a main movie size of 5.31GB (movie and AC3 6Ch, no subtitles).

Seems wierd that the actual size of the movie could be so different between regions.    I'll have to borrow the disc back from my friend when I see him again tommorow and investigate further.   I'm intrigued now.

Cheers...

grover,

now i'm curious as well  .  maybe paramount did use the same source, but encoded it at a higher bitrate (for whatever reasons).  on the R1 dvd, i have

- english 5.1 surround
- english dolby surround
- french dolby surround
- 2 theatrical trailers
- behind the scenes featurette.

so what is on the R4 dvd???  any additional features?

DA

PS:  if paramount did encode at a higher bitrate, you might not lose much picture quality when you reduced the movie size (incl. audio) to 4.37 gigs...

I'll let you know what it's got when I can get my hands on the original again from my friend.

Cheers...