IC7, dvdshrink and cropping main title like, original, process, course

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Well, looks like the idea was get rid of all unnecessary stuff via dvdshrink, then CROP the final credits and then go ahead with IC7.
Turns out the process went okay, except fot the fact that the final size of pdi files was bigger than expected.
bizarre, since IC never blew the thing.
Of course I could re-process, but any idea why??

probably the IFO's but it could be other things

by how much did it oversize and what did you set it too?

what was the original size of video-only? and how big were the audio/subs you kept?

what are your reg settings?

what format is the DVD?

you have cut the credits, are they black with white writing?

similar thing happens when u use dvddecrypter in ifo mode, remove unwanted cells and audio streams, create new ifos with ifoedit and then feed it to dvd2one. the final size is 10-15% over 4.37GB (tried 3 diff movies and all ended up being bigger than 4.37GB).

is there a way specify the final size on IC? if so, u may want to select a lower size amp; c what happens.

This smells bad because stripping everything whith dvdshrink and then doing main movie with IC seemed to be such a nice way to do things...

Apparently this is not an IC only issue since muralin experienced the same thing using dvd2one and ifoedit.

The movie was Hannibal, R2.
Getting rid of all crap but main movie and english track is about 300mb more than standard dvd-r capacity. tried both dvdtoolbox and dvdshrink, checked IFO files and so far they're exactly the same.
Then cut off end credits and some logos, this eliminates 200mb..well, okay then. Process with IC7, (standard settings, movie and one soundtrack only, should get no surprise). Final size was 50 megs more than expected..hmmm..
Could possibly play around with final size, but this shouldn't happen.
End credits were same as always, black background and white writings.
IC7 original copy and regged, set to examine up to 500 megs. BUT left 1% only for unexpected stuff..will try to set at 5% and see what happens.
Truth to tell, dvdshrink and IC7 is the best conbination so far, movie-only and one language track, to max out movie quality.

Originally posted by need4speed

IC7 original copy and regged, set to examine up to 500 megs. BUT left 1% only for unexpected stuff..will try to set at 5% and see what happens.
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It will probably be around 0.15-0.19Gb smaller if you reserve 5%. so you will end up around 4.18-4.22Gb

every 1% is about 40MB, but chopping a movie then feeding it to IC is dodgy as it always seems to affect the size it produces

think about it, end credits are normally dark with just basic music and normally don't take up that much space when they are compressed, especially with IC

e.g 5 mins of compressed end credits will be a lot less MB's than 5 mins of movie action so this will have an effect on resulting size as IC will not undersize as much cos it ain't processing the black part

we all know what black content does to IC regarding undersizing so it's losing this extra undersizing by chopping the end credits, so your results will actually be more accurate and higher if you chop them off

hope you get my point

Originally posted by MisterX
It will probably be around 0.15-0.19Gb smaller if you reserve 5%. so you will end up around 4.18-4.22Gb

hope you get my point  

yes, point taken :0
BUT, IC is not good at all at predicting final size if extras are selected, this iseems to be a known bug. Besides, checking the compression ratio, initial size and predicted size, there's always something wrong. Assumed that, when fed with movie only and one track, what's the deal? Movie only, no credits, what's the problem about?
Thanks again

Originally posted by need4speed
yes, point taken :0
BUT, IC is not good at all at predicting final size if extras are
IC is a known 'bug' , just kidding cos it ain't as bad as what it was in the early days cos it's quite easy now to predict accurate sizes once you get used to it

dunno what your last post mean't but in simpler terms it's well known black content in movies affects IC by underszing

if you chop the end credits off you will not get as much undersizing as normal as you would if you left them in cos there'll be less black content, so you'll actually oversize more than what you expect