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I had a look at SVCDBuilder and i see it uses the mux tool from i-author,this is ok for people that still have and/or use it but for those that don't(most of us),it renders the gui useless,which is a shame because i really like what it can do.I agree bbmpeg's muxing is a little buggy but it works fine for me most times if i set the mux rate to 0.May i suggest using the mux tool from TSCV,it is very good and works a treat.

Thanks for your suggestion, Kb_cruncher. I'll add support of the bbMPEG- based muxer of mmgrover:
~mmgrover/mplex.zip
showthread.ph...0amp;pagenumber=1
ASAP, maybe tomorrow or day later.

Already done! It was just simple.

congrats migor,

seems very good!

why don't use TMPGenc too?

ProCoder provides better quality than both TMPGEncoder and CCE.
TMPGEnc often makes quot;dancingquot; backgrounds on low bitrates and produces mackroblocks on fast motion.
CCE on SVCD bitrates produses snow-like noise and quot;mosquitoquot; noise around of objects, but has much better handling of the fast motion and is much faster.
The ProCoder is slower , and it's picture is little softer, than CCE.
However ProCoder's picture is much cleaner, monochrome surfaces are better, fast motion is just fine, better than CCE. With ProCoder you can make fullscreen 720x480(576) movie even on SVCD bitrates! Try to do it with CCE!? ProCoder is very good for DVD to SVCD conversion and also it is only encoder that can produce good SVCD from DV source.

That's why I don't use TMPGEnc, and, it seems to be more complex for automation. But maybe, I'll do it (if SVCDbuilder will be useful prog)

Originally posted by migor
ProCoder provides better quality than both TMPGEncoder and CCE.
TMPGEnc often makes quot;dancingquot; backgrounds on low bitrates and produces mackroblocks on fast motion.
CCE on SVCD bitrates produses snow-like noise and quot;mosquitoquot; noise around of objects, but has much better handling of the fast motion and is much faster.
The ProCoder is slower , and it's picture is little softer, than CCE.
However ProCoder's picture is much cleaner, monochrome surfaces are better, fast motion is just fine, better than CCE. With ProCoder you can make fullscreen 720x480(576) movie even on SVCD bitrates! Try to do it with CCE!? ProCoder is very good for DVD to SVCD conversion and also it is only encoder that can produce good SVCD from DV source.

That's why I don't use TMPGEnc, and, it seems to be more complex for automation. But maybe, I'll do it (if SVCDbuilder will be useful prog)

really right!(you got the words)
this is my opinion about procoder too.
very few people see the differences,i'm using procoder from last year and got fantastics results.

quot;I'll do it (if SVCDbuilder will be useful prog)quot;
of course will be!
TMPGenc with Kwag's templates is faster and clean.
do you know it?

ps:
why don't you create a package
with all programs(free)
with SVCDbuilder(x).zip ?I don't know what Kwag's templates are, I didn't work with TMPGenc lately. I will learn it ASAP. Now I'm planning to add VFAPI convertor support, because Link2 is not a free utility and it's newest versions don't work with ProCoder. I'm also planning to make it possible to avoid using mpeg stills at the end of the movie - use avisynth's black video with text. I do know that SVCDbuilder is not yet complete and needs to be improved, and in order to improve it, I need feedback.
It's not a bad idea to create a package with all the freeware programs, but I need the authors' permissions to do this !? Is that right?

quot;need the authors' permissions to do this !? Is that right?quot;
i don't know friend...but ask the authors,i can't see any problem.

quot;Link2 is not a free utility and it's newest versions don't work with ProCoder.quot;
yeah,i see it.....the boring part,no?

about Kwag's templates:
forum

sorry my horrible english.....
i have some ideas and pm to you later,ok?

thanks.

your program promisse cool features!Already done! It was just simple.

Wow,that was fast.Thankyou,i am most greatfull.I will try it asap.Now I'm planning to add VFAPI convertor support, because Link2 is not a free utility and it's newest versions don't work with ProCoder.

The latest release of ffvfw codec comes with a tool that can replace link2 and it is free,although i'm not sure about using it outside the codec it comes with.showthread.ph...ighlight=ffvfw

ffvfw.html

Thanks, Kb_cruncher, I will check this. Now the next program update will be done very soon. It will be an option do not use mpeg stills at the and of the movie but use avs script instead ( BlackClip + Subtitle ). I do it for better compatibility with different players, and, BTW it helps in the case, when some players cut last 2-3 seconds of the movie.

yes.avisynth can do many cool things.i played around with it and put short thumbnail clips and my own logo at the start of some of my svcd's.I don't remember the scripts now but i'll try and dig them up.

hi again migor

see, more than 298 views in this thread(at the moment)!

your prog will be useful of course.

ps:
quot;One-click setting of Fade in and Fade out for each discquot;
quot;Automatic splitting of the movie into 1-3 CD'squot;
quot;Visual adjustment of split and cut pointsquot; I have tryed SVCDBuilder using procoder,all goes well until procoder starts.Procoder produces an error saying quot;the selected item can not be added to the target listquot;.I followd the installation instructions and set the global folder of procoder to the same as svcdbuilders first folder.I'm not sure how to fix this.Any help would be appreciated.
Other than this i realy like SVCDBuilder and will be using it for all my s(vcd) creation from now on,once i get it to work ok that isI found that if i click out of the error message then select the basic mpeg target profile,SVCDBuilder will then set the encoding parameters and carry onto create the image(s) successfully.

Hi,  Kb_cruncher!
Can you send me the print screen photo of the quot;Add targetquot; list (where basic mpeg target appear), when you get an error message ? My E-Mail link is in the About box of the program.

Will do as soon as this encode finishes,which will be some time cos procoder should be called slowcoder,a measly 5 fps on a 2.3gig tbred

Hi, kb_cruncher!
You can download the update for ProCoder MPEG engine here:
~video/
Find quot;Canopus.MPEG-2.SoftEngine.v3.0quot;. It's faster.
I hope, that I've fixed quot;Add targetquot; bug.
So, new version V2.1.2.1 is out. It has improvements and new options -to avoid using still images.

Please let me know about any expected bugs.

Regards,

I am using the latest update of svcdbuilder and the new procoder engine and all is fine now,thankyou.Procoder speed is no better though ,I will just have to be patient i suppose

I am going to do some manual tests with the aviwrapper that is bundled with ffvfw codec soon,i will also try yv12 input via mpeg2dec3 and see if procoder supports it too,i know cce does not.This should add a litle speed to procoder.....i hope.

cb_cruncher, hi !
I's strange, that you have so slow encoding speed. For me it acheives 13-14 fps with NTSC sources (SVCD format)(For PAL it's slower) on my old 1GHZ T-bird ! I guess, your problem is that you use unregistered (demo) version of the Link2 - it has speed limitation just about value you get! But if you will install quot;normalquot; version, it is faster, than VFAPI codec.