ok here is the deal. i have been running some tests w/ XviD these past few weeks to see if i want to start archiving my tvrips w/ this codec. a few months ago i tried an encode w/ XviD and it turned out pretty ok. now i try it and after everything is done, it plays back totally slow. my cpu load goes to 100% and it just sucks. when i play divx 3.11a stuff i have done, cpu load is only about 40%. my system is a 550 mhz athlon w/ 640 mb ram. and again, the xvid i did months ago played fine. attached is the .vcf i used (2 pass, keopi's new binaries - 30062002) please let me know if i am doing something wrong or if xvid just demands a better playback system now.
need any more info? just ask i'll post it. this is driving me nuts.
/balance07
XviD does use more cpu power to decode than divx3.. but 550mhz sould be enough. try the ffdshow decoder/filter
For me, a Celeron 466 with 128 Megs of RAM is enough - and I can keep other stuff running at the same time.
Make sure that you 've got post-processing disabled if you use Nic's DSF. Can't think of something else ATM, sorry.
no change w/ ffdshow, tried that before too. and post processing is off w/ nic's dsf. did u check my .vcf file? am i doing anything wrong? i use 2 pass 1st pass then 2 pass 2nd internal. i can't think of anything i am doing wrong. i'm gunna try a 1 pass encode and see if i get anything different.
I have plenty of XviD files that are choppy on CPUs slower than 800MHz. Smooth on P3-800 or greater. Time for an upgrade? Heh.
Maybe someday XviD will be ready.... cause when you get some Jerky play back with a super computer. AthlonXP @ 1649mhz then you know its the codec or the playback filter. And I feels its the codec.
I doubt that could be the codec, coz I have a P3 500MHz that has always played XviD without any choppyness or any other problems whatsoever.
Are you saying that you get choppy playback on an Athlon XP with that kind of clockspeed? Definitely something going on. I only have a 1700+, and I get totally smooth playback, even on 60FPS files full-screen at 1600x1200.
you can try changing the fourcc to DIVX, and see if the divx dshow filter handles it better...
ok i downloaded some other xvid encodes (xvid + vorgis in ogg container) and they also play choppy. so i guess my encoding technique is not flawed. again, xvid played fine a few months ago when i tried it then. maybe i'll format and reinstall winxp and see if THAT makes any difference. maybe i have some dirty fighting stuff going on in my system
thanks for all the info guys
THE thing that saved me from choppy playback and
too dark movies too - might help you!
I have celeron@900 and one day started to have same problems as yours.
When I set color settings of my video card (TNT2 nvidia) (video tab)
to default it was smooth playback again.
The build(XviD-30062002-1) Im using seems alot better and does not seem to have the problem as bad. It still jerks and there is the green screen bug(I can always tell when a movie is XviD so maybe they should leave it).
I have a friend with Dual 800mhz P3 setup and he to has had jerky XviD playback... so I know its not just me.I have only had one or two other codecs do this, WMV7 amp; 8 and Huffyuv.
I can understand why Huffyuv would do this.
can u pls change the fourcc to divx and see if it's the xvid filter or not pls? u can also try ffdshow which has it's own decoders. AND if you play the clip right form the cd, then lack of proper bufferring may cause this. what happens if you copy the clip to the HD first and then play from the hd?
Mine where from the harddrive and so was my friends.
He uses the ffdshow and I will get him to try it.
I will use the XviD and DivX playback filters and see how it goes.
note: he has already been using the ffdshow and seems to like it very much and I have not heard him complaining any more, so maybe its fixed it. I will have him post here.
As for me I barely notice it. And the newest build seems the best I have tried. Sure wish you guys had a sponsor or someway to be rewarded for all the hardwork you all do.
I want to see XviD make it and be the best...
I saw some posts where some things might be taken out of the codec?
Well thats fine with me. IMHO they need to make a good codec with good playback filter and then make a tool for it like Nandub.
Just my .02Cause I'm telling you now the proof/facts whatever is in the quality!
And Nandub has it.
uhmmm.. i use xvid all the time and no jerkiness
no green either.. i used ffdshow and directshow.. no jerkiness
i have a duron 950 there are other factors beside cpu speed.. video card is probably as important as the cpu.. (not saying its your issue so dont feel you have to tell me you have a geforce 4 based card with 512+ mbs of ram
but just saying its a factor in overall playback performance
encoded resolution (500x300 takes lot less calculation time than say 720x480)
postprocessing.. etc etc
anyways.. i luv it and it works great on my humble duron.. so as far as i am concerned xvid is 100% ready for my pc
w00k
xvid + ogg/vorbis + mode2
A little while back i encioded my transformers DVD. I had not choppy playback, but I did have fereezing. NOt liek divx freeze, it would freeze, the audio would still go on, then it owuld catch up with itself.
I installed FFDshow to decode it and now all is well.
People with trouble I suggest trying FFDshow or change the fourcc to Divx and see if divx 5 filter does it good.
the issue i suspect is NOT the codec itself, but the decoding filter. as the streams are iso mpeg 4 complaint.....,.
if they indeed are iso mpeg 4 compliant, then they will play as well as any mpeg 4 stream, with the right filter.
Stabmaster thanks for posting. I thought you said ffdshow was working good.
Did you also not say that ffdshow got rid of the green screen for you as well?
My guess is that it could probably be your video card. You haven't told us what it is.
I've seen in otherwise identical computers, mine being a P3@505 with an ATI Rage Pro (on-board) playing jerky, while my colegue as a P3@450 with a Matrox G200 and it doesn't jerk at all, so I guess my onboard video card does not have the necessary fill rate to do it.
What puzzles me is that he din't used to have any problems before, they just came up.
Aye, once I installed FFDshow and use that for xvid, the green screen is gone, and the freezing I was talking about is gone too.
These issues were with koepis builds( dunno if he codes a decode filter or not) in case this matters.
So in the end, my DVD rip is of great quality and runs without a hitch.
(640x480x29.97) fps, 22 minutes, 226 MB)
I was shooting for 233 MB (To fit 3 on a cd full) but i think i screwed up with the conversion, whether its 1000 or 1024 or whatever.)
ffdshow did not help at all. but what DID help was using the version of WMP included w/ windows XP (v8?) rather than mplayer2.exe (wmp 6.4) that i had been using all the time before. go figure. plays alot better now. i dunno if anyone can come up w/ an explanation for this or not...
btw, my video card is ati all-in-wonder pro 128 (agp)
since this doesn't seem to be an encoding problem, i'm going ahead w/ starting to use xvid for my backups, as i plan to get a faster system in a few months anyway |
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