The Blockies!

andy

Hi, I have been backing up dvd's for awhile thanks from the help I got here. Anyways now i'm am successfully burning just about any dvd I can get my hands on (blindly I might add). But now when I go to playback any dvd I backup. I get these blockies in the picture. The sound is fine the disc doesn't skip or anything it just distorts for a second here and there ( not to often) with the block type look. Kind of like when a satellite reception gets a tad bad. Ok i'm wondering could I just need a new dvd burner? Playback seems to work fine on my dvd rom. Now I don't think it's my living room player, because some of the original dvd-r's I burned when I first got my burner work flawlessly. I've tried old, and new dvd's they all get the blockies now. Any help would be cool. I don't want to go out and buy a new burner if it isn't neseccary. I have a NEC 3520A says on the sight it doesn't need any drivers, and i've never bought media it couldn't handle. It's just up untill recently I've been getting the blockies ( there still watchable, but annoying when you seen perfection). I use shrink, decrypter, even fab at times. Maybe when I started to use fab it all started.

Hi!I use shrink, decrypter, even fab at times. Maybe when I started to use fab it all started.
If by quot;fabquot; you mean the freeware quot;DVDFab Decrypterquot;, using it to quot;successfullyquot; copy physically damaged DVDs (rubs, scratches, etc.) certainly could yield the result you've described.

So could using poor quality media, or using a burner that needs a cleaning...

It's also likely that you've been shrinking a full DVD-9 to a DVD-5 and over-compressing to the extent that it's affecting the picture.  The best way for anyone to help you is if you recreate your problem and post the logfiles from the programs along with some screenshots.

Usually with a failing burner or really crappy media, a copy will skip, freeze or not play at all.  quot;The blockiesquot; doesn't sound like one of the symptoms.

Some of the media I have used are as follows, and are always 8x speed recorded at 4x for quality.

AVB ( havent' in awhile seems like some real good stuff)
My last batch were Taiyo Yuden ( all seem bad )
Ritek ( first batch ever worked great, last batch all did it)
Smartbuy ( Not to smart of a buy actually this media wouldn't fast forward correctly in my dvd rom. Maybe even froze from time to time on the living room player)

That's pretty much it. I noticed the Taiyo, and AVB are actually the same media when I burn them. Setarip-rip most the media was new not scratched, or damaged. Cwr03 I have done what you said, and I have recorded ones with plenty of space left without any video compression with shrink. This still happens I need to figure out how to do what you suggested.

After your next burn, and before you delete the data, check the ripped image for quot;the blockies.quot;  Problems can sometimes occur during the rip process.

@wheelyi'm am successfully burning just about any dvd I can get my hands on (blindly I might add)

Please explain exactly what you mean by this, as it may or may not be a part of your problem.

Also, if you play your original, purchased DVDs (not the backups of them that you've recently created) in the same players, do they also exhibit these quot;blockiesquot;?


Originally Posted by CWR03After your next burn, and before you delete the data, check the ripped image for quot;the blockies.quot;  Problems can sometimes occur during the rip process.

Sounds like a good plan, but I usually send it straight to decrypter, and I have no idea how to view it that way. I am still pretty much a noob. I know where it's stored in the decrypter. Is it possible to open it with windows media when it's stored in the file section of Decrypter?


Originally Posted by setarip_old@wheelyPlease explain exactly what you mean by this, as it may or may not be a part of your problem.

Also, if you play your original, purchased DVDs (not the backups of them that you've recently created) in the same players, do they also exhibit these quot;blockiesquot;? Ok by quot;Blindlyquot; I mean I basically just winged it when I started. Everything seemed to work so I went with it. I havent' got into it deep enough to understand everything about the software I am using.

When I play my originals they work fine. I've seen the blockies from far to much compression like say putting a 3 and half hour concert on a 2 hour dvd-r. This is sort of like that but it's not compressed looking the whole time your viewing it. When it does do it's far worse, and may turn white the blocks. I just got done watching an older one I burned, and it worked perfectly fine. Maybe the newer media isn't compatable with my dvd player in my living room. I hardly ever notice problems when playing a dvd in my dvd rom on my computer if ever. I enjoy watching movies sometimes on my pc, because of it's high resolution.

Whether you ripped in File of IFO mode, you should be able to play the ripped files with a software DVD player, Windows Media Player (provided there's a software player installed) or, as setarip_old will likely point out, VideoLanClient.


Originally Posted by CWR03Whether you ripped in File of IFO mode, you should be able to play the ripped files with a software DVD player, Windows Media Player (provided there's a software player installed) or, as setarip_old will likely point out, VideoLanClient.I just tried a new dvd it's in ISO mode neither, window's media, quicktime, windvd will play it. What I did was shrink it, and then ran it through decrypter, and then had decrypter burn the image as well ( seems the fastest solution for my needs. As far as I know). Bummer is I found an image defect on the burn when playing on the pc. The original is perfect so I am thinking it's either I keep getting bad batches of media, or the burner needs replaced. This almost has to be the dvd burner problem. To many of them showing up. Unless I need to download firmware. I don't know anything about that if it's needed with NEC burners. Well the good news is I at least know my living room player doesn't need replaced which would be more costly.   I think if the funds are there this month I may try a new burner, and while i'm at maybe give a crack at installing it myself. Anyhow guys

You have to mount an ISO file with a virtual drive in order for any of the players you listed to play the rip.  You may want to re-read my prior post which you yourself quoted.

If you Google search your burner's model number with the word quot;firmwarequot; you should find it easily.

It's possible that your current problems are due to an advanced copy protection sceme on your disk.  Searching here for your title will call up results if others are having problems with it.

@wheelyI just tried a new dvd it's in ISO mode neither, window's media, quicktime, windvd will play it.

Try playing the .ISO image file from your hard drive using the (freeware) VLC player - It doesn't require mounting the .ISO image file to a virtual drive. You'll then be able to determine if the .ISO image file exhibits the quot;blockiesquot; that are troubling you...


Originally Posted by setarip_old@wheelyTry playing the .ISO image file from your hard drive using the (freeware) VLC player - It doesn't require mounting the .ISO image file to a virtual drive. You'll then be able to determine if the .ISO image file exhibits the quot;blockiesquot; that are troubling you...Ok I downloaded the  VLC player ( pretty cool ). I got the blockies with the .ISO file.

So now you know that neither your burner nor your blank media is the cause of your quot;blockiesquot;. Your problem is arising when copying the original, purchased DVD.

As I said earlier in this thread, if by quot;fabquot; you mean the freeware quot;DVDFab Decrypterquot;, using it to quot;successfullyquot; copy physically damaged DVDs (rubs, scratches, etc.) certainly could yield the result you've described...

I've also found that having your DVD-ROM set to quot;Cable selectquot; can cause read errors.  If your disk is clean and free of scratches, check that you have the proper cable (It will have a blue, a black and a gray plug for motherboard, master and slave respectively) and that the drives are properly configured to Master and Slave.

Please read the entire thread each time you visit so we don't have to keep answering the same questions again - instead, you can keep us updated with what you plan to try next, or what you've tried and whether or not it was successful.  It not only lets us know what's happening, future searchers will gain that knowledge as well.

Ok i'm not recording damaged, or dirty dvd's. I've used the free dvd fab and came out with perfect recordings, and defective ones from time to time. This is something that just happened, and is happening all the time now. I use shrink and dvd decrypter and it still does it ( this is where it's happening most the time, because that is what I use the most). Actually the last burn was that way, and it was a newer film. Never got an error with shrink like I usually would if something was up. When I mentioned Fab I mentioned it, because this is right around the time when things got blocky consistently. It could of been just a coincident. Maybe a encrypted dvd planted something in my burner. I honestly don't see where anyone was answering my questions over and over. Sorry, and thanks for your help.

I honestly don't see where anyone was answering my questions over and over. Sorry, and thanks for your help.

Although I disagree with your statement, since we've now narrowed down your problem to NOT being related to either your burner or the media you're burning (as well as teaching you how to play an .ISO image file on your PC), I hope you're eventually successful in determining the precise cause of your problem ;gt;} Please post back here when you've resolved your dilemma, as it will be interesting to hear what the cause was...

@wheely

I've used the free dvd fab

Do you mean DVD Fab Decrypter?

This tool seems to ignore small reading glitches instead of re-reading the sector of the DVD. A single bit error can result in the quot;blockiesquot; you can see sometimes.

I would use DVDDecrypter instead. And don't use AnyDVD or similar programs at the same time.

goonix


Originally Posted by setarip_oldAlthough I disagree with your statement, since we've now narrowed down your problem to NOT being related to either your burner or the media you're burning (as well as teaching you how to play an .ISO image file on your PC), I hope you're eventually successful in determining the precise cause of your problem ;gt;} Please post back here when you've resolved your dilemma, as it will be interesting to hear what the cause was...Oh no you guys been very helpfull! I worded it all wrong. I meant was I really asking the same question over and over, and getting answers to the same exact question? It doesn't matter anyways you guys have been very helpfull and I thank you guys. I will let you know if I find the problem.

[QUOTE=goonix]@wheely

Do you mean DVD Fab Decrypter?Yes I do

This tool seems to ignore small reading glitches instead of re-reading the sector of the DVD. A single bit error can result in the quot;blockiesquot; you can see sometimes.

I would use DVDDecrypter instead. And don't use AnyDVD or similar programs at the same time.I use DVDdecrypter most the time, and still get this problem. I don't use Anydvd just Dvddecrypter, and shrink on occasion the FAB.