Can I put the new version of QuEnc (v.61) in the QuEnc folder of
DVD-RB?
Would this action cause problems within Rebuider?
Regards,
I haven't tested it yet... but you won't loose anything on testing it as long as you keep a copy of the version you are using.
I think I will wait until I get the quot;All Clearquot; signal from youor jdobbs. I can wait a few days.
I don't need the headache if there is a conflict.
Regards
I just did Barton Fink with DvD-BR.92PRo and QuEnc .61 2 pass HQ. No problems except that it came in at 3.71Gb undersized, this is with target sectors set at 2269500. QuEnc.59B2 has consistantly worked well for me.
HC.14 comes in oversized at 4.44Gb (target sectors at 2258000) while good old DVDShrink comes in at 4.36Gb just like a clock. Others have noted that HC.14 tends to overshoot and I certainly agree.
There shouldn't be any problem with new QuEnc (I.e. it will be just as compatible with DVD-RB as far as I know).
Thanks for any info on the new ratecontrol. It's usually very good at getting the target size right. Especially on the small tests I have done. I'll keep an eye on it.
-Nic
HC.14 comes in oversized at 4.44Gb (target sectors at 2258000)
That wouldn't happen if you use the default setting in dvd-rb... can't blame the enocoder if you made the mess.
I have NEVER had HC .14 over or undersize anything at the default setting... 4.33/34 like clock work.
As for QuEnc .61.. did Dodgeball and Pitch Black (Dir Cut) both 4.33g
Originally posted by Oldeman
HC.14 comes in oversized at 4.44Gb (target sectors at 2258000) while good old DVDShrink comes in at 4.36Gb just like a clock.
Now you left me wandering how could hc relate to dvdshrink... I guess it doesn't
What Matrix do you use with QuEnc or HC14?
I tried a few and had good results with quot;Kika Cimic Highquot;. Any comments would be welcome.
p.
What Matrix do you use with QuEnc or HC14?
I tried a few and had good results with quot;Kika Cimic Highquot;. Any comments would be welcome.
Which matrix... it depends on what material you using, movie/film or TV series, cartoon/anime, high bitrate/low bitrate, progressive/interlaced......I find quot;Kika Cimic Highquot; works well for cartoon/anime and extremely high bitrates very similar to quot;Smooth (CG)quot;.... most of the time the default matrix for both HC and QuEnc work well, for mid to mid/low bitrates (4000k to 3000k) you might try quot;QLBquot; by dragongodz or quot;BACH1quot; by DDogg.... But now we are getting a little OT
Ok, I reinstalled DVD-rb w/ Rockas .91 installer, new ini with no target sectors (or any modifications). Overlaid DVD-RB with .92 PRO version, using QuEnc.61 2 pass with all other defaults (no Trellis,no HQ, no matrix, no stealing from extras). Resulting VIDEO_TS was 3.78Gb.
QuEnc.59b2 also comes out undersized. As I mentioned earlier, HC.14 best mode with defaults comes out at 4.44 with this test movie.
I disabled a couple of audio tracks and extras in DvdReMake and maybe DVD-RB thinks they are still there, even though they don't show up in the DVD-RB window.
Correct sizing is the only issue that I have with DVD-RB. Sometimes it is great...
Originally posted by Oldeman
I just did Barton Fink with DvD-BR.92PRo and QuEnc .61 2 pass HQ. No problems except that it came in at 3.71Gb undersized, this is with target sectors set at 2269500. QuEnc.59B2 has consistantly worked well for me.
HC.14 comes in oversized at 4.44Gb (target sectors at 2258000) while good old DVDShrink comes in at 4.36Gb just like a clock. Others have noted that HC.14 tends to overshoot and I certainly agree.
Try ReJig... it will come in exactly also... transcoders don't have to worry about this stuff. Of course on the other hand, they often look worse than the 3.71GB encoder output...
Oldeman, have you tried not preprocessing with DvdRemake? You can disable the unwanted audio in dvdrb.
Originally posted by Oldeman
I disabled a couple of audio tracks and extras in DvdReMake and maybe DVD-RB thinks they are still there, even though they don't show up in the DVD-RB window.
Correct sizing is the only issue that I have with DVD-RB. Sometimes it is great...
Try not doing any preprocessing and let DVD-RB remove the unwanted tracks likes winny said.... most of the time under/oversizing seems like it's caused by preprocessing.... if you keep get the same problem, don't preprocessing... see if it helps.
Here is log and excerpts from Barton Fink 3.78Gb DVD-RB.92 Quenc.61 2 pass (defaults only), no TargetSectors run.
DVD-RB shows 4172Kb for video(1 big VTS). There is one audio track of 162Mb and about 64Mb of menus with a movie reduction ratio of 66% as reported by DVDShrink.
Did I screw up to come in at 3.78Gb?
Are you saying that 3.78Gb-242Mb is reasonably close to 4,172Kb?
I know that transcoder sizing is easier to predict. If I didn't want best quality, I wouldn't even be using DVD-RB. All I'm saying is that on some movies DVD-RB gives great sizing and on some it does not.
Changing TargetSectors is the only thing I know that will affect sizing...If there is anything I/We can do to improve sizing let us know... [01:12:19] One Click encoding activated...
-----------------
[01:12:20] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- QuEnc 0.6.1.0 encoder selected.
- VTS_03: 3,357,817 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 167,791 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 64.2%
- Overall Bitrate : 4,885Kbs
- Space for Video : 4,172,862KB
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 5,473/500/4,885 Kbs
[01:25:51] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 13 minutes.
[01:25:51] Phase II ENCODING started- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 0................- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 43- Extracting STILLS for VTS_03 segment 44
[03:13:02] Phase II ENCODING completed in 108 minutes.
[03:13:03] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_03 - Reading/processing TMAP table... - Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
.........
- Rebuilding segment 44 VOBID: 19 CELLID: 1 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_19 - Updated VTS_C_ADT. - Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_03_0.IFO - Updating TMAP table...
Correcting VTS Sectors...
[03:23:56] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 10 minutes.
Done.
[03:23:57] PREPARE/ENCODE/REBUILD completed in 131 min.
[Status]
mode=2
MovieOnly=0
Original_Size=3402344
Excluded_Audio_Sub_Size=0
MainVTS=03
VTS_03_SIZE=3252375
Progress=2
CCEType=2
Encode_Progress=45
[V0300001]
Last_Sector=6902
[V03000000001001]
SCR=.000
PTS=17205.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=371
First_Sector=0
Last_Sector=6902
Reduction=64.2
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
Convert16=0
EndPTM=1410597.000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=183
Video_Sectors=4290
DGIndexProjectFile06
7
32 Q:\WORK_E1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB
32 Q:\WORK_E1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_2.VOB
32 Q:\WORK_E1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_3.VOB
32 Q:\WORK_E1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_4.VOB
32 Q:\WORK_E1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_5.VOB
32 Q:\WORK_E1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_6.VOB
32 Q:\WORK_E1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_7.VOB
Created by DVD Rebuilder
[item]
title=V03000000001001
aud_out=0
vaf_file=Q:\DVDRB_WORK\D2VAVS\V03000000001001.vaf
aud_file=Q:\DVDRB_WORK\D2VAVS\V03000000001001.mpa
file_focused=0
packet_size=2048
width=720
height=480
frame_rate_idx=1
cbr_brate=6000
vbr_brate_avg=4542
vbr_brate_min=500
vbr_brate_max=9000
seq_endcode=0
dvd=0
half_width=0
half_height=0
lum_level=0
adjust_q_matrix=0
aspect_ratio=3
gop_m=3
gop_nm=4
gop_hdr=12
seq_hdr=1
all_closed_gop=0
fix_gop_length=0
samples_per_sec=44100
stereo=2
brate_idx=7
crc=1
progressive=1
alternate_scan=0
intra_dc_prec=2
intra_dc_precision_9_max=113
intra_dc_precision_10_max=113
encode_mode=0
vmode=2
fast_mode=0
quality_prec=25
timecode=0x0000000
vid_file0=Q:\DVDRB_WORK\D2VAVS\V03000000001001.m2v
vid_file1=Q:\DVDRB_WORK\D2VAVS\V03000000001001.m2v
vid_out=1
vaf_out=1
opv_q_factor=20
opv_brate_min=0
opv_brate_max=9000
vbr_bias=25
vbr_pass=1
use_filter=0
filter_val=6
non_linear=1
top_first=0
mpeg1=0
mpeg1_cps=1
qmat_idx=0
[file]
name=Q:\DVDRB_WORK\D2VAVS\V03000000001001.avs
frame_first=0
frame_last=371
encode_first=0
encode_last=371
As the new DVD-RB PRO v.93 has the QuEnc v.61 in it my original question is now moot. |
Post at 2011-4-15 15:13
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