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I've been using DVD Rebuilder to back up movies that run much longer than 3 hours using the half D1 amp; steal space from extras setting. Whenever I make these backups and run ingTools Classic to build an ISO file for burning with DVD Decrypter I get errors telling me that the VIDEO_TS.IFO or VIDEO_TS.VOB are not the right size, mkisofs cannot parse dvd-video structure or create a dvd-video image. What I did was used IfoEdit to open the VIDEO_TS.IFO file and then hit the quot;Get VTS sectorsquot; button and let it correct the error(s) that it finds.

I have to do this for every single backup that I do like this that I'm using DVD Rebuilder (CCE SP 2.5) and utilizing the half D1 option amp; removing unwanted audio tracks amp; subpictures/titles.

I can burn the title set folders outputted using this process using Nero 5.5.x.x just fine and it will play on my players, but I prefer burning a much more compatible ISO with DVDDecrypter. But the outputted files always give me an error, as stated above.

Maybe I'm just missing an obvious setting somewhere, or is this something others have had probs with? I can get it to work using IfoEdit to correct the IFO file but would rather not have to go that way every time if possible.

what are the errors ifoedit is correcting?



FWIW, here's the log from DVD-RB...

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[13:19:47] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- quot;Half-D1/Half Space for Extrasquot; mode is enabled.
- quot;Steal Space from Extrasquot; mode is enabled.
- VTS_01: 3,960,039 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 246,287 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 55.9%
- Overall Bitrate : 3,062Kbs
- Space for Video : 3,839,006KB
- Movie improvement from extra reduction = .0%
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 3,641/843/3,062 Kbs
[13:39:08] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 20 minutes.
[13:40:50] Phase II ENCODING started- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 1- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 2- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 3- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 4- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 5- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 6- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 7- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 8- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 9- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 10- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 11- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 12- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 13- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 14- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 15- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 16- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 17- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 18- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 19- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 20- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 21- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 22- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 23- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 24- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 25- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 26- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 27- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 28- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 29- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 30- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 31- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 32- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 33- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 34- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 35- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 36
[15:30:44] Phase II ENCODING completed in  110 minutes.
[16:19:27] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_01 - Reading/processing TMAP table... - Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01 - Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02 - Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 3 CELLID: 1 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_03 - Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 1 - Rebuilding segment 4 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 2 - Rebuilding segment 5 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 3 - Rebuilding segment 6 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 4 - Rebuilding segment 7 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 5 - Rebuilding segment 8 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 6 - Rebuilding segment 9 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 7 - Rebuilding segment 10 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 8 - Rebuilding segment 11 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 9 - Rebuilding segment 12 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 10 - Rebuilding segment 13 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 11 - Rebuilding segment 14 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 12 - Rebuilding segment 15 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 13 - Rebuilding segment 16 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 14 - Rebuilding segment 17 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 15 - Rebuilding segment 18 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 16 - Rebuilding segment 19 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 17 - Rebuilding segment 20 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 18 - Rebuilding segment 21 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 19 - Rebuilding segment 22 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 20 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_04 - Rebuilding segment 23 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 1 - Rebuilding segment 24 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 2 - Rebuilding segment 25 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 3 - Rebuilding segment 26 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 4 - Rebuilding segment 27 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 5 - Rebuilding segment 28 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 6 - Rebuilding segment 29 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 7 - Rebuilding segment 30 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 8 - Rebuilding segment 31 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 9 - Rebuilding segment 32 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 10 - Rebuilding segment 33 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 11 - Rebuilding segment 34 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 12 - Rebuilding segment 35 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 13 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_05 - Rebuilding segment 36 VOBID: 6 CELLID: 1 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_06 - Updated VTS_C_ADT. - Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO - Updating TMAP table...
Correcting VTS Sectors...
[17:20:57] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 61 minutes.

Done.


Originally Posted by sacajaweedaWhenever I make these backups and run ingTools Classic to build an ISO file for burning with DVD Decrypter I get error

It sounds like you have it narrowed down but just to be sure.. if you run ingTool Classic on the source files you get no errors but after DVD-RB you do, right? If that's the case maybe you could try the settings and tweaks one by one and find the one, or ones, that makes IfoEdit and ingTool disagree with DVD-RB.Originally Posted by sacajaweeda- quot;Half-D1/Half Space for Extrasquot; mode is enabled.
- quot;Steal Space from Extrasquot; mode is enabled.
...
- Movie improvement from extra reduction = .0%

This looks like there are no extras to reduce, so why do you use those options?


Originally Posted by borgrafIt sounds like you have it narrowed down but just to be sure.. if you run ingTool Classic on the source files you get no errors but after DVD-RB you do, right?Correct. The source files can be converted to an ISO no problem using ingTools Classic. I just double checked it to be sure and this is the case. It's the files outputted by DVD-RB that are giving me this problem.Originally Posted by borgrafIf that's the case maybe you could try the settings and tweaks one by one and find the one, or ones, that makes IfoEdit and ingTool disagree with DVD-RB.

I'm sorry. I've already found a way to get them to work. Me personally, I lack the ambition and dedication to go back and re-do this particular back-up job over and over doing the process of elimination thing trying to find the culprit. I was just posting this find as more of a user-feedback thing or a heads-up of sorts for some of the more ambitous folks around this fine forum that maybe have ran across this before, or who would themselves put forth the effort. Maybe I have the wrong attitude for a developers' forum such as this one. I'm just a user pointing out something I encountered using this (great) program and the way around it I found using another program. For that I apologize. Colour me selfish and lazy.Originally Posted by borgrafThis looks like there are no extras to reduce, so why do you use those options?

Yes, I do see that now. Do you think it could have something to do with what's causing the error even though nothing was really gained by it?

heh.. I coudn't help but think if you put the same effort into testing this as you did in the apology you'd have it nailed by now  jokes aside, no apology is needed m8..  I shouldn't have assumed that you'd bend over backwards to find a small bug. Maybe 'll run a batch with some diff settings and see if I can reproduce it, but not tonight Originally Posted by sacajaweedaDo you think it could have something to do with what's causing the error even though nothing was really gained by it

Well it shouldn't be. But with bugs, if this is one, i've learned not to take anything for granted.

edit: bad spelling

@sacajaweeda

1.) You do realize that with those settings, you are reducing things by at least 60%? quot;Half-D1/Half Space for Extrasquot; reduces by 50%, then you're reducing again when you choose quot;Steal space from Extrasquot; by whatever percentage you choose.

2.) What version of RB are you using? And what decoder? 20 mins to prepare, 61 mins to rebuild, but only 110 to encode entire movie? Something is wrong there.

3.) What are you preprocessing your source with? Only one VTS on the entire disc?


Originally Posted by SpazzHH@sacajaweeda

1.) You do realize that with those settings, you are reducing things by at least 60%? quot;Half-D1/Half Space for Extrasquot; reduces by 50%, then you're reducing again when you choose quot;Steal space from Extrasquot; by whatever percentage you choose.

2.) What version of RB are you using? And what decoder? 20 mins to prepare, 61 mins to rebuild, but only 110 to encode entire movie? Something is wrong there.

3.) What are you preprocessing your source with? Only one VTS on the entire disc?

Not sure I follow you on #1 above.

I'm using version 0.93 freeware with the DGDecoder that was included in the installer. What's wrong with the times?

I'm not preprocessing my source. Just ripping the ISO and using Daemon Tools to mount it like a virtual drive. Yes it's just the one VTS.

Not sure I follow you on #1 above.

quot;Half-D1/Half Space for Extrasquot; gives you half the resolution and half the normal bitrate(50% or Half Space). If you then also use the quot;Steal Space from Extrasquot; option, you are then lowering the bitrate even further. If you choose to steal an additional 25%, you have lowered it a total of 75%.

What's wrong with the times?

Seems kind of odd. I understand that speed is determined by alot of different factors, but my prepare and rebuild stages only last 8-12 minutes max, and I have never had CCE finish encoding an entire movie in only 110 mins. If your Prepare and Rebuilds take that long on your machine, why is CCE able to finish so fast? If all times are relative, seems like it should be taking about 3 times longer than what it is. Something is not adding up right.


Originally Posted by SpazzHHquot;Half-D1/Half Space for Extrasquot; gives you half the resolution and half the normal bitrate(50% or Half Space). If you then also use the quot;Steal Space from Extrasquot; option, you are then lowering the bitrate even further. If you choose to steal an additional 25%, you have lowered it a total of 75%.

I understood it to mean half D1 for everything and rob some extra bitrate from your extras to increase the bitrate for the movie. Maybe I'm not getting it, but what I see with my eyes on the finished DVDs when I use that setting is really crappy, blocky looking menus amp; extras and the movie itself looks good. That's the setting I use for long movies. This particular movie didnt have much for extras or fancy menus, so it didn't look any different than the original, but on other movies there is a very noticable difference.Originally Posted by SpazzHHSeems kind of odd. I understand that speed is determined by alot of different factors, but my prepare and rebuild stages only last 8-12 minutes max, and I have never had CCE finish encoding an entire movie in only 110 mins. If your Prepare and Rebuilds take that long on your machine, why is CCE able to finish so fast? If all times are relative, seems like it should be taking about 3 times longer than what it is. Something is not adding up right.

Oh, sorry. I'm using a couple different machines here with a router. One machine has all the CPU horsepower but no available drive space, another has a fast(er) rip/burn drive and enough space to rip to, and another machine that has lots of space but not much else. And my router isn't all that great, so it's a bottleneck of sorts. Gotta do what ya gotta do

edit:
Anyways, back on point....any ideas what may be causing the problems  with the IFO files that is making ingTools error out?


Originally Posted by sacajaweedaI get errors telling me that the VIDEO_TS.IFO or VIDEO_TS.VOB are not the right size, mkisofs cannot parse dvd-video structure or create a dvd-video image.

I ran a test with your settings on both PAL and NTSC sources, using both PRO and freeware versions, and found nothing. Sure it was only 2 source DVDs, but since you get it all the time I figured it'd be enough. There's a reasonable chance that the problem is on your end. A complete uninstall, and then reinstall with Rockas installer is always worth a shot.

Or donate and get the PRO version that can completely remove extras and output directly to iso

I did use the installer.

OK here's my latest effort. This one was a DVD of three other movies that I compiled into one DVD and it turned out okay and didn't give me any problems creating the ISO file.

[04:11:04] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- VTS_01: 2,221,021 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 193,661 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_02: 2,231,295 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 182,585 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_03: 2,280,955 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 179,284 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 29.7%
- Overall Bitrate : 1,343Kbs
- Space for Video : 3,798,406KB
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 1,831/500/1,343 Kbs
[04:19:48] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 8 minutes.
[04:36:00] Phase II ENCODING started- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 1- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 2- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 3- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 4- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 5- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 6- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 7- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 8- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 9- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 10- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 11- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 12- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 13- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 14- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 15- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 16- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 17- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 18- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 19- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 20- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 21- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 22- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 23- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 24- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 25- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 26- 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[08:22:09] Phase II ENCODING completed in  226 minutes.
[09:40:27] Phase III, REBUILD started.
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- Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO - Updating TMAP table...
- Processing VTS_02 - Reading/processing TMAP table... - Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1 - Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 2 - Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 3 - Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 4 - Rebuilding segment 4 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 5 - Rebuilding segment 5 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 6 - Rebuilding segment 6 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 7 - Rebuilding segment 7 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 8 - Rebuilding segment 8 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 9 - Rebuilding segment 9 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 10 - Rebuilding segment 10 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 11 - Rebuilding segment 11 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 12 - Rebuilding segment 12 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 13 - Rebuilding segment 13 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 14 - Rebuilding segment 14 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 15 - Rebuilding segment 15 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 16 - Rebuilding segment 16 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 17 - Rebuilding segment 17 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 18 - Rebuilding segment 18 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 19 - Rebuilding segment 19 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 20 - Rebuilding segment 20 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 21 - Rebuilding segment 21 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 22 - Rebuilding segment 22 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 23 - Rebuilding segment 23 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 24 - Rebuilding segment 24 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 25 - Rebuilding segment 25 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 26 - Rebuilding segment 26 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 27 - Rebuilding segment 27 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 28 - Rebuilding segment 28 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 29 - Rebuilding segment 29 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 30 - Rebuilding segment 30 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 31 - Rebuilding segment 31 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 32 - Rebuilding segment 32 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 33 - Rebuilding segment 33 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 34 - Rebuilding segment 34 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 35 - Rebuilding segment 35 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 36 - Rebuilding segment 36 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 37 - Rebuilding segment 37 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 38 - Rebuilding segment 38 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 39 - Rebuilding segment 39 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 40 - Rebuilding segment 40 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 41 - Rebuilding segment 41 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 42 - Rebuilding segment 42 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 43 - Rebuilding segment 43 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 44 - Rebuilding segment 44 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 45 - Rebuilding segment 45 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 46 - Rebuilding segment 46 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 47 - Rebuilding segment 47 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 48 - Rebuilding segment 48 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 49 - Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01 - Updated VTS_C_ADT. - Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_02_0.IFO - Updating TMAP table...
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- Updated IFO: VTS_03_0.IFO - Updating TMAP table...
Correcting VTS Sectors...
[10:34:16] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 54 minutes.

Done.

Nothing fancy. No extras, just the main movies ripped from the original DVDs, resized to half D1 and put onto one DVD with a basic straight forward menu.


Originally Posted by sacajaweedaI can burn the title set folders outputted using this process using Nero 5.5.x.x just fine and it will play on my players, but I prefer burning a much more compatible ISO with DVDDecrypter. But the outputted files always give me an error, as stated above.

I realize this is perhaps a bit off-topic for the thread, but I have generally been using Nero to burn the resulting DVD files from all backups I process reguardless of the software or meathods used.  Is there some inherant compatibility issue with the way Nero handles these files when used in set-top players?

I realize that sacajaweeda may be simple meaning that he wants ot insure the errors are corrected instead of simply burning a disc with sector errors as Nero is allowing, but I wanted to clarify.

I used to use Nero all the time and thought it was the best thing going, then one day I got a different set top player and discovered that my DVDs weren't playable on it. As coincidence would have it, I was just beginning to start fiddling around with using ingTools Classic amp; DVDDecrypter to burn the resulting ISOs and they worked just fine, unlike the ones I had burned using Nero. Puzzled by how one disc would play but not the other, I decided to rip one of the ones that wouldn't play and use ingTools Classic to build an ISO amp; burn it and they too played just fine. Maybe I was doing something wrong in Nero just using the DVD-Video mode amp; dragging amp; dropping the TS folders and not checking a setting here or there, I don't know. All I know is the discs worked one way but not the other, so for simplicity's sake I've just stuck with the latter technique amp; enjoyed the seemingly great compatibility....that I actually thought I had all along before but apparently didn't. I still think Nero's a great app, and I still use it for anything CD-R related, but as for burning DVDs it's DVDDecrypter all the way for me now.


Originally Posted by jdobbs(from this thread)This is a known issue.  If you read the README.TXT file you'll see that very large ILVU segments are not yet supported -- but will be in Version 1.00.

OK, thankyou for the response jdobbs. I used the installer to set DVD-RB up on my machine and I didn't get a file named README.TXT with it. There was a file named Rebuilder.txt however, and I searched it for all references to ILVU and this is what I found:

From the Rebuilder.txt file included in the installer:May 23rd, 2005 (v0.93)
- Corrected a source of possible quot;Runtime Error 9quot; that could happen when IFO and VOBs aren't  in agreement about ILVU.  This conflict may happen during PREPARE when certain types of  preprocessing have been done).

April 10th, 2005 (v0.83)
- Correct a problem in which VTSs that were 100% ILVU content were not included in the output directory.

December 5th, 2004 (v0.68)
- Changed the way in which the ILVU_EXTRACT= parameter works.  This is in preparation for some newer methods of handling multiple angles and ILVU sequences that are large.

October 30th, 2004 (v0.66)
- Corrected an error in which ReJig encoding failed during the quotREPAREquot; stage when working on a disc with ILVU and/or angles.

October 17th, 2004 (v0.65)
- Multiple angles and ILVU (Interleaved VOBU Units) are now supported.  The  method used has worked successfully on all multiangle and seamless branching  discs I've tested to date.
- Note:  The greatest challenge I've run into with multiple angles and ILVU is  that they are already pretty tightly bitrate bound -- and any smaller sizing  at all seems to noticably degrade the quality.  So for this version I've  decided to not further compress the ILVU portion of a film.  In my testing it  has shown to not be worth the quality loss -- the largest ILVU portion of a  film I've found is the Matrix, and it is too small to have any significant  impact on available bitrate.  I can readdress if anyone finds a DVD in which  this isn't the case.

October 14th, 2004 (v0.64)
- Note:  It continues to be my intention to provide this package as freeware. But,  due to the exceptionally poor donation response (less than 1 out of every 800  users) and my belief that I should somehow reward those to took the time and  effort to contribute to this project, either through donation or extraordinary testing support -- in the future all new releases will be made to a list of  VIPs/donators first.  After a 30 day period that version will be released in a  quot;publicquot; version.  Those who helped through donations and special beta support  deserve recognition.  This is my way of saying quot;Thanks.quot;  THE FIRST DONATOR  RELEASE (IN A COUPLE OF DAYS) WILL SUPPORT MULTIPLE ANGLES AND ILVU (I've  completed it and am testing it now).

Now, can you please help me determine which notation there applies to my problem here? Some notes: The error never came durring the preparation stage. As noted, the rebuilding process completed sucessfully, start to finish using non-preprocessed source being read from ISO files mounted as virtual drives as source. Also, I freely admit to being completely ignorant on quot;ILVU segmentsquot;. I don't know what they are or if the movie I was backing up contains them. FWIW the title I was backing up when I first ran across this problem was The Aviator.

I did spend some time searching via Google for a solution for this before I posted this thread and I did run across a few posts from people that encountered the runtime error, but I don't get that error. That's why I posted here. Please don't take this thread the wrong way. I think this is a great program and realize you have put a tremendous amount of time and effort into it. I'm just trying (perhaps clumsily amp; noobishly) to find my way getting everything to work right for me.
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