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Closed Captioning in Maestro/Scenarist

I am trying to keep the closed captioning on my backups.

When I rip the subtitles, it does not have closed captioning. Is there special coversion tool I have to use to capture the closed captions?

What do I have to do to keep that?

Closed captions are part of the video stream. As long as you do not re-encode it, they will remain. You can also use CCParser to extract them, and McPoodle has a tool to create them.

Ok, so far I used Graphedit and RAW2SCC to extract and convert CC to a scc file.

How do I import that file into Scenarist? It does not recognize that file format. (according to the guide by McPOODLE, it should be)

It's been a while since I used Scenarist, but if I remember correctly, right click on the movie and go down to LINE 21 file.  This is where you input the CC's.

No that's Maestro, not Scenarist. There is no Line 21 input that I can see in Scenarist...



Really arcane how you add this file (btw - I'm not impressed with the user interface, but I guess having descended from SGI...)
Make sure the quot;property browserquot; is displayed (view -gt; Property Browser)
From the data editor, click on the video file. Now, in the property browser scroll down, you should see quot;Line 21 Switch 1quot; checkbox and file box.
Normal CC goes into field 1 (Switch 1), XDS (content rating, time-of-day, etc) goes into field 2 (basically, don't bother with it)

Amazing! I never knew it could be done that way.  Thanks for the guidance, mpucoder.

Ok..two questions.

Does sst becomes part of video like closed captions once converted and imported? I don't want another subrip type subtitles. I want to keep the CC like it is in the original - as part of video stream (I found that in Maestro it is imported as line 21 and becomes part of video).

Another question is how to offset the timing of the scc file that I converted from RAW using RAW2SCC. I tried -o flag (I tried -o-00:00:10:00, for example) but it won't let me do the negative offset. I have the version 1.2 that was supposed to work in this manner.

And on a related note, is it possible (or should I say is there software to do this  ) to convert captured CC (my DV camcorder's analog input seems to capture line 21 as part of the video) from an over-the-air program and convert it to subtitles when converting to DVD?

Xesdeeni

Xesdeeni:

Do the search and you will find a post from McPoodle that explains the hows of the conversions...  

You would need Graphedit, SCCtools and so forth...

So Anyone with answers for those two questions up there?

mpucoder,

Tried taking a raw cc file, and putting it into that line21 field as you directed. Doesn't work for me. I get this:

Error Cannot open line21 data file quot;H:\!REQUIEM\VTS01\VTS_01_VSUBCC_P1.sub.cc.raw)quot; quot;-quot;
Errordvd_mux : DoMux Multiplexing Error
ErrorTerminated Multiplexing (1-chap.scn-VTS__01_P01_1.mpv-t_t.vob).
Error Wrong Line21 Information file.
Error Multiplex is failed.Any ideas?

It needs to be in a specific format (scc) which McPoodle has documented very well. He also has a tool for converting raw 2 scc ~mcpoodle/SCC_TOOLS/raw2scc.exe

McPoodle has a new version out as of tonight...

Here is the link.

~mcpoodle/SCC_T...SCC_TOOLS.HTML

/mcpoodle43/quot;.

vobsub2scc has just entered my archival of useful tools. Thanks!

McPoodle,

One thing I noticed is that when I use Graphedit and demux the cc from several VOB's and copy them onto one, it gradually tends to go out of sync (about 1 to 2 seconds by the end). I think it's the changeover from one VOB to the next, there must be some syncing issue...I would hate to fix it on every VOB...

My cc syncs just fine with VOBSUB files.

Any idea?

@Eyes' Only,

I know in your DoItFast4U guide you spelled out a way to convert cc to subrip format to import to Scenarist/Maestro as subtitles.

Do you know any way I could reverse it?  sst to raw format, that is

Hi,

I can encode CC using scenarist.  I can even turn on the closed captions option in the MS DVD player.  But when i try to view it on my APEX 500WM i cannot see the captions.  I have all caption options turned on and i am able to see captions throught regular TV.  The only thing i can thing of is that the computer is able to read the descriptors better than the TV is.  Im am only using 2 quick lines of CC data...maybe i should do more?

Anyone with info on this let me know.

thanks

TomGL
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